revere & ntv forks

[norfolknchance]

i found out today that the spring spacers are differant between the two bikes
the right seal has gone on the NTV & the left seal has gone on the revere
being the same bike i just swapped the one leg untill i could get the seals done

after stripping down both legs i noticed that one of the spacers is about 2" longer than the other

problem is im not sure which leg it was

can anybody tell me is there any other differances i should look out for
thanks Alan

[buzzin]

Springs on the NTV are longer (then the revere ones), and thus a shorter spacer
There are three different lengths according to Haynes, but the older the model, the shorter the spring
Also, different hight of the forkfluid level.

[jaz66]

Hi

You seem very up on fork etc
can I just ask does anyone know roughly how much;

*Fork seals could cost to fit at garage
*Should they be replaced in pairs?
*If leak is minor how important is it that they are replaced
NOW.!
ASAP....!
When handling become worse.?

Silly question perhaps
but any answers would be a big help

Cheers
Jaz

[Jake]

Welcome back Jaz.....

When one of my seals went I had both replaced in either fork. Got it done at the shop for £30.... too lazy to do it myself.

Bought genuine Honda seals from David Silver (I'd avoid pattern seals myself) and 15w fork oil (Motul) from Wemoto....

[buzzin]

Well, I just replaced the seals myself recently, so that's why I know

- Dunno the cost, I bought my parts at an expensive shop (around the corner) and was set back around 60 euros for parts and oil.
- Yes, do it in pairs, from what I have been told, it's a very bad idea to have to legs with possibly different reactions to the road.
- If the leak is minor.....find a good deal, and replace it then....mine was half empty....and it didn't handle all that bad.
Let's just say I noticed a damping of bumbs for the first time after I was done.....methinks the seals were broken when I bought it...well over half a year ago...

The parts I got were all genuine honda parts (shop here doesn't sell 'fakes'). The dust seal and oil seal come as a set.
I used 10w fork oil....honda used 5w as standard, but that wasn't for sale, and I know most people prefer 10 or 15 anyway....

The haynes manual and the workshop manual for the revere are quite easy to follow if you want to do it yourself....
(be prepared to get your hands dirty though....and the smell of that old oil ... ewwwww)

[norfolknchance]

one leg was a crappy brown colour & the other was a yukky grey colour

[ant_]

May 8, 2008 7:40:26 GMT -5 Jake said:

Welcome back Jaz.....

When one of my seals went I had both replaced in either fork. Got it done at the shop for £30.... too lazy to do it myself.

Bought genuine Honda seals from David Silver (I'd avoid pattern seals myself) and 15w fork oil (Motul) from Wemoto....

30£ i got quoted 80£ auch.

some mechanics are *****

Going to have to do it my self,
but a bit concerned,is it a straight forward job??

[buzzin]

If I can do it, anyone can
I only have standard tool sets, and torque wrenches. (Metric set that is!)
Ow....and having a topcase can come in handy as a way to keep the back end down while it's on the center stand. (I stuffed it full of bricks...)
And like the manual says....one leg at a time

Not sure if I got both manuals here, but if you need them (haynes and another workshop manual) send me a PM.

It took me, with no experience in the matter whatsoever, a full day to do.

[jaz66]

Cheers all
nice to be back.......... ;D

So if I understand it right.

If it ain't affectting the handling, I can wait a while to fix it.

It can cost from £30 upto £90 plus to fix it at a garage

And doing it takes an unskilled spanner monkey like me
a whole day...mmmhh.

Plenty to think about there.



Thanks for getting back with so much info so quick.
Just shows the benefit of belonging to a site like this.

NTV owners club rocks!!

Enjoy & ride safe
Jaz

[Paul Mason]

When I changed mine, I had hells own trouble shifting the top bush in the fork leg.

In the end, I had the stanchion clamped in my large vice (using soft jaws!), applying plenty of heat around the top of the slider, and, using an old wheel spindle in the spindle hole, knocked it off using a heavy (2Lb) soft hammer.

It all went back very easily - but make sure you fit the seal the right way up! - Details in manual.(don't ask - made this mistake on another bike, cost me another set of seals) & don't miss out the washer. Yes, yet another set of seals!!!!

I found the retaining circlips on mine were quite corroded - as they are only a few pence from David Silver it could be a good idea to change them at the same time.

Hope this all makes some sort of sense

Paul.

[jaz66]

Hi all

Thanks for all the helpful advice

Finally got both seals done
(£80 actual paid. Quoted £120 ..
mental note. always pay cash. ;D )

Your info told me i was not up to it, but at least i got honest answers.

But might be able to do next change (If required)
Notice difference, less bumpy on uneven surfaces and bike seems to 'lift' up more from lights when pulling away.

Guy reckoned as not leaky when got it and fork seal 'popped' chrome was fine..

Hope he's right....

Time will tell

Ride safe &
cheers for input

jaz

[jj]

I'm getting my forks done tomorrow

But I don't how much the bill will be yet ! better put on the charm

[buzzin]

hehe, that's why I do the work myself.....if I turn up the charm I usually pay more
I doesn't seem to work for us guys

[jaz66]

Hi all

Buzzin you are right.
it dont always work, and doing it for yourself is cheaper and brings its own rewards.

but whenever i want good service I do what i do with bar
staff, be polite, smile, show interest in their job
and bung em a tip.

same principle wherever you want decent service.
Dont be a pain, ask legitimate questions and
have reasonable expectations
(ready at 5pm not 5 minutes.. )
That tip for service also (hopefully) gets you noticed for similar
service next time.

But your spot on, we cant compete with the ladies,
when they put on the charm, men do fall over themselves
a bit...(I know I do....... )

So JJ, how did it go,
did you pick it up yet and did you get a good deal?

Jaz

[jj]

Oh! Yes!! ;D

NO CHARGE !!!!!! but he is a good mate

So charm can work