lowering the footrests

[outlaw]

Hi this is the answer to the high footrests on the ntv, buy a set off the honda deauville, you can use the ntv gear change if you want ( i bought the deauville one )but the ntv one must be used on the gear box splines ( as the caseing is not the same) i first used the ntv brake pedal but it is a bit high so i have bought a deauville one (not fitted it yet,) you can use the ntv rear master cylinder,the footrests are about 1-1 1/2 inchs lower and about the same forward, if you do not have panniers it would be easyer.
any q please ask,

[Jake]

Apr 20, 2011 14:17:54 GMT -5 outlaw said:

Hi this is the answer to the high footrests on the ntv, buy a set off the honda deauville,

Great idea, Outlaw.....

[outlaw]

This is the finished item with the deauville parts fitted, brake peda now in linel/ full gear lever and linkage, and cover, that was fitted. so the gear linkage ( it is not a oil leak as i greased the ball joint under the rubber ) was straight and not at a angle like in the first photo,
outlaw

[Rick76]

Brilliant work as usual John - I have Deauville footrests and brake lever on their way. I never have liked the ntv peg type r.brake lever anyway. Are you saying that the ntv gear linkage is not happy with the lower Deau rests - From your pics the Deau splined gear lever stub looks longer and maybe more cranked than the ntv. Does that give a longer gear lever travel and maybe better action? questions,questions! All the best, Richard

[outlaw]

HI there is no problem useing the ntv gear change the shift is the same, there is a slight angle no problem with the gear changes, pull the rubber cover off the ends and put some grease in them then put them back on , but me being me i wanted it done, rember when you fit the rear master cylinder you may have to take up all the ajustment on the bolt that comes out that is what i had to do ,also leave all the rear brakes connected you will need 2 6mm bolts to hold the cylinder on as the ntv has threads on the back of the foot rest the deauville does not,also if you use the ntv foot rest on the front you will need to drill a small hole for the spring to fit in put the spring in first the push the pin that holds the foot rest in.
any more q,s please ask
if i want it do i will do it ;-)
outlaw

[Rick76]

OK thanks for that bud. I already had to max the adjustment on the rear brake by sawing a tad off the sleeved adj. nut even with the standard rest. Got the L.H rest today, quite a bit bigger all over, am hoping with luck can attach Givi carrier to rearmost hole. Don't want to stop riding it at the mo, now the cold has gone away ! Cheers.

[leslie52]

Before I buy the parts and make a mistake (easy for me!), please have I understood things correctly?

1. To lower the pegs on a Revere, footrest hangers from a 1998-01 NTV 650 are a bolt-on replacement. The Revere gear lever will re-fit, but can also be replaced by the NTV's for completeness.

2. The right-hand side requires a small amount of modification in order to re-fit the Revere's brake pedal, (a) to the Revere's pedal/brake cylinder linkage, and (b) to the stop-switch spring location. Using the NTV brake pedal is an option, but the modifications are still necessary.

Thanks. Leslie.

[Jake]

Dec 15, 2011 13:41:50 GMT -5 leslie52 said:

Before I buy the parts and make a mistake (easy for me!), please have I understood things correctly?

1. To lower the pegs on a Revere, footrest hangers from a 1998-01 NTV 650 are a bolt-on replacement. The Revere gear lever will re-fit, but can also be replaced by the NTV's for completeness.

2. The right-hand side requires a small amount of modification in order to re-fit the Revere's brake pedal, (a) to the Revere's pedal/brake cylinder linkage, and (b) to the stop-switch spring location. Using the NTV brake pedal is an option, but the modifications are still necessary.

Thanks. Leslie.

Hi Leslie....

Let's hope that Outlaw or Rick76 are around to answer
your questions directly.

In the meantime, in order to lower the footrests my
understanding is that, it's not the 'footrest hangers
from a 1998-01 NTV 650' that are being used but the
footrest hangers for the NT 650 Deauville.....(Sorry to be
pedantic but the'yre not the same bike.)

The gear lever from the Revere can still be used,
but Outlaw prefers the gear lever from the Deauville.

I don't think that Rick and Outlaw have re-used the
Revere brake pedal. They have replaced it with the
Deauville brake pedal. Outlaw certainly has.

(If you refit the Revere brake pedal it sits too high
in relation to the footpeg.)

Hope this helps.....

[leslie52]

Oops, my bad. In typing I've mixed up my NTV650s and NT650 Deauvilles!

Thanks for putting me right.

Leslie.

[Rick76]

NTV / Deauville Foot control mods for lower footrests( NB if the diagrams have not come through if you send me a message with email I will send it that way)
I found that even as standard, with at max adjustment the brake pedal did not sit low enough so :- Brake pedal height adjust
Diag 1

I had already had to shorten the spigot on the adjuster nut (18) and retract it as far as poss. Now with my lower Deau. rests, I had to shorten the mast.cyl. pushrod thread (9) by about 5mm (check!) to allow the Deau. pedal to fall enough to sit beneath my foot ( just). It was a bit of a fiddle to get it just right because when you change the rest height that much you have to make sure everything has enough clearance, i.e. the pedal lug in the clevis (15), and I had to stretch the strong return spring a bit (11, diag 2.) Brake light switch adjusted OK. The Deau. pedal has a slightly shorter pushrod lug which gives more braking force. You’ll need 2 x m6 long thro’ screws & nuts for master cyl. Mount.

Gear lever
With the different footrest height the gear lever fouls the Deauv. rest at bottom of travel, obstructing downchange movement ( ie. 1st) so I had to carefully reprofile the lever lug where it was touching and the same to the footrest lug to give it just enough clearance and then finally to raise the lever to the best position I needed to carefully shorten the L.R. thread connecting rod a little .
The Deaville gear pedal – has the lug in a more forward position which is clear of it’s pivot which should get over the problem but would probably also need the different length connecting rod too.
diag 2.NTV pedals
Yes, you do have to remember your toes on corner lean in but overall, it’s far better.
Hope this is useful – cheers R.

[Rick76]

this is attempt to post diagram pics to go with previous post

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[Rick76]

Well diag 2 is through so here goes for diag 1:

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[leslie52]

Thank you Rick, all very clear (including diagrams). I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Re-profilng the seat higher by 25mm is also on the agenda, but everything 'bike' is suspended now till the New Year. So, Season's Greetings, and thanks again.

Leslie.